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MOTfourth .
INVright .
INV*INV: okay, this is November fourth, nineteen eighty five, and this is the second meeting with Child and Parent .
MOThear all that Child ?
MOTthat means you're official .
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MOTwhat ?
MOTare you whispering ?
MOT*MOT: you tell Observer you learned how to whisper, and you really like whispering, don't ya ?
CHImommy .
MOTwhat ?
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CHIfron(t) xx .
INVthe front loader .
INV*INV: and what's that part ?
MOTwhat's that part called, Child ?
MOTremember what Mr Rogers told you about that ?
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MOTit's not working very well right now though, is it Child ?
CHIno .
MOT*MOT: xxx we haven't actually ridden in it, but we've turned it on and made the buckets go up and down .
MOTthat's very scarey, when you're right inside of it it's very noisy, ha Child .
MOTdid Mr Rogers a xx ?
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MOTdid somebody teach him how to do that ?
CHIyeah .
MOT*MOT: and then what did he do ?
MOTwhat was he digging with his xx ?
MOTwas he digging pebbles ?
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INVis it called a back hoe ?
CHIyeah .
MOT*MOT: and do you remember what those little bumpy things at the bottom of it are called ?
CHIthey're called teeth .
INVteeth ?
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MOTthey're called tiger teeth .
INVthat's great .
MOT*MOT: we learn from Mr Rogers too [% MOT and inv laugh] .
INVdo you watch Mr Rogers on television ?
CHIyes .
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INVdo you watch Mr Rogers on television ?
CHIyes .
INV*INV: I understand Mr Rogers came and gave a talk at College .
INVlast year ?
MOTreally ?
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MOTneat .
MOTI thi [/] I think he's really interesting .
MOT*MOT: most of my friends think he's a jerk, and I don't know why .
INVoh really ?
MOTbecause I don't know if they're judging him, I mean I've watched every day with Child, so I, ya know, I know what's on it .
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INVoh really ?
MOTbecause I don't know if they're judging him, I mean I've watched every day with Child, so I, ya know, I know what's on it .
MOT*MOT: I don't know if they judge him because he's a little bit effeminate and all that .
MOT<I don't know if that's why they think> [//] <I'm not sure if that's> [//] the things he talks about are fascinating .
CHI[- says this at the same time as MOT says the above] Momma xxx .
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CHI[- says this at the same time as MOT says the above] Momma xxx .
INVmmhm .
MOT*MOT: ya know, and he talks about things that you wouldn't think of talking about with kids .
INVmmhm .
MOTat least that I wouldn't .
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MOTat least that I wouldn't .
INVmhm: .
MOT*MOT: he was talking about the first day of school, about a couple a days before school started, and he wasn't talking about how children feel about going to school, but how their mommies feel when the children are at school, and the fact that their mommies (wi)ll miss them, and what their mommies might be doing while they're at school .
MOTjust, you know, just interesting things .
INVmhm, mhm .
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MOTI like it .
MOThe talks about, he's got a little girl on a lot that's handicapped, she's got leg braces .
MOT*MOT: and he asks her about how she feels about it .
MOTyou know, can she put them on herself, you know, stuff that most people would be afraid to talk about +...
INVright but would be +...
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MOTyeah .
INVyeah .
MOT*MOT: we saw tricycles be made the other day, and applesauce .
INVhmm .
MOTand, <I don> [/] I don't know think it's a great show .
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MOTwe saw tricycles be made the other day, and applesauce .
INVhmm .
MOT*MOT: and, <I don> [/] I don't know think it's a great show .
MOTI like it .
MOTthe part, the pretending part I don't know if you know .
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INVis it on every day ?
MOTyeah, twice .
MOT*MOT: it's on at eight o'clock in the morning, and five o'clock .
MOTand there are repeats .
MOTthe one that's on at five o'clock at night is the same one that's on the following morning .
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MOTyeah, twice .
MOTit's on at eight o'clock in the morning, and five o'clock .
MOT*MOT: and there are repeats .
MOTthe one that's on at five o'clock at night is the same one that's on the following morning .
INVI see .
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CHIxx because they're old pipes .
MOTthey were cutting the old pipes, that's right .
MOT*MOT: and they made, it made sparks when they cut it ?
MOTwhat was gonna go through the pipes after they finished putting them in ?
CHInew pipes .
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CHInew pipes .
MOTnew pipes .
MOT*MOT: and what was gonna go inside the pipes ?
MOTremember what was, what was coming through the pipes ?
CHIyeah .
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CHIyeah .
MOTyeah .
MOT*MOT: and they put the pipes way down into the ground ?
CHIand that's what they drink .
INVand that's what you drink ?
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MOTand they put the pipes way down into the ground ?
CHIand that's what they drink .
INV*INV: and that's what you drink ?
CHIyes .
MOTand the other pipes were dirty, right ?
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INVand that's what you drink ?
CHIyes .
MOT*MOT: and the other pipes were dirty, right ?
CHIyeah !
MOTand they put in clean new pipes .
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MOTand the other pipes were dirty, right ?
CHIyeah !
MOT*MOT: and they put in clean new pipes .
INVso you saw the old pipes ?
INVdid you see the old pipes ?
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CHIdis is where you dump it .
MOToh, that's where you dump it, okay .
MOT*MOT: and then when you come back again, you get another load ?
CHIyeah .
MOTokay .
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MOTmothers can always understand .
CHIno dats da new paint .
MOT*MOT: and most of the things, I mean, I think that he says are very clear .
INVyes .
MOTbut sometimes they're not, (be)cause xx can't understand them .
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INVyes .
MOTbut sometimes they're not, (be)cause xx can't understand them .
MOT*MOT: and the special Mommy language, ha Child ?
MOT<some of the kids he was playing with> [//] getting some more pipes ?
CHIyes .
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MOTmaybe the cement mixer can help you in your digging too .
MOTone of the kids in his play group is a month younger than he is just started talking .
MOT*MOT: and the thing that's so funny about it is his mother was a speech therapist [=! Laugh] and she was so worried about it .
CHIMa Mommy I need a spoon .
MOTyou need a spoon ?
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CHIput dem, pick them back up .
MOTnah, you pick them back up .
MOT*MOT: Child, you remember when we went to New Hampshire and we saw them making syrup ?
MOTdo you remember that ?
CHIyes .
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CHIyes .
MOTwe watched them making syrup ?
MOT*MOT: remember the two little girls up there and they had big wheels ?
MOTand the man was making syrup in a little house ?
MOTand xx you got to taste it ?
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MOTwe watched them making syrup ?
MOTremember the two little girls up there and they had big wheels ?
MOT*MOT: and the man was making syrup in a little house ?
MOTand xx you got to taste it ?
CHIum . [+ V]
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MOTremember the two little girls up there and they had big wheels ?
MOTand the man was making syrup in a little house ?
MOT*MOT: and xx you got to taste it ?
CHIum . [+ V]
MOTand then we brought some home, didn't we ?
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MOTand xx you got to taste it ?
CHIum . [+ V]
MOT*MOT: and then we brought some home, didn't we ?
CHIyeah !
MOTand we still have it .
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MOTand then we brought some home, didn't we ?
CHIyeah !
MOT*MOT: and we still have it .
CHIyeah .
MOTwhat do you put it on every day ?
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MOTif you want to play xxx otherwise you're gonna have to go home .
MOTokay, why don't you go ask Observer if she if she brought any of those toys with her ?
MOT*MOT: why don't you go over and ask her ?
INVdo you want to see some of the toys I brought ?
MOT+< he was asking this morning .
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MOTremember any of those toys ?
CHIxx .
MOT*MOT: [- squeeking noises] xxx why don't you check and see what Observer brought ?
MOTwhat is it ?
MOTwhat is +...
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INVa duck, that's right .
INVthere was a duck .
INV*INV: now let's see, and I finally got one .
INVyes, there's the duck .
MOTyou told Daddy about that duck, didn't you Child ?
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INVyes, there's the duck .
MOTyou told Daddy about that duck, didn't you Child ?
MOT*MOT: come here and let me talk to you for a second .
MOTokay ?
MOTyou should try to play a little more gently .
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MOTI can't either .
MOTthat's a special one .
MOT*MOT: remember I told you Observer likes to listen to how children talk, and that's what that tape recorder is doing .
MOTwe taped your voice at home, didn't we ?
MOTwith your tape recorder ?
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MOTwe taped your voice at home, didn't we ?
MOTwith your tape recorder ?
MOT*MOT: remember you talked, and then we could hear you talking ?
MOTthe same thing's gonna happen in hers .
MOTChild +...
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CHI0 [% CHI and MOT laughing] .
INVactually Child, I brought something new this time .
INV*INV: I brought a book that I thought maybe you and Parent might like to look at together .
INVwould you like to see some of the things that are in the book ?
INVthere's one page here, in particular, that I thought might interest you .