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GRAwhat are those ?
GRAspoon .
GRA*GRA: what do you eat with spoon and +...
HVIobviously you're not um <#> [>] [//] she's not potty trained yet ?
GRA+, fork [<] ?
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MOTshe [/] um she does show interest [/] she does .
HVIhmm.
MOT*MOT: she is aware when she's # got a wet nappy and says <poo poo> ["] in fact .
HVIhm yes .
MOTso she's [/] # she's very interested in um # us using the loo .
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GRAxxx .
HVIxxx .
MOT*MOT: so she likes to get a bit of loo paper and put it in the loo herself .
HVIoh that's good yeah .
MOTso we'll probably start .
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GRAno that's not nina ["] that's [//] # those are flowers .
CHI0.
HVI*HVI: the next # assessment that she has xxx two [//] at two and a half which is a more formal assessment she has a medical part with a doctor as well .
MOTmm hm .
GRAthat's an +...
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HVIhas she got some special friends at the school # <at the creche> [>] .
MOT<at the creche> [<] not [//] she hasn't really started making friends.
MOT*MOT: she knows some of the [//] # their names and she'll point them out but she hasn't shown attachment to any particular one .
CHIninã [<] .
GRAyes [<] .
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HVI<but she> [<] [/] she generally plays well with other children .
MOTyes .
HVI*HVI: (be)cause I think sometimes at this age they haven't quite developed the idea of sharing or otherness yet have they and you can often get sort of xxx [>] .
CHIgranny [<] .
CHIgranny [<] .
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CHIyyy .
GRAgranny's xxx .
MOT*MOT: um # I've measured her and weighed her recently and I [/] I don't know if that's a part of what you have to do .
HVIyes I would like [//] I was going to do her head circumferance in a minute [>] .
MOTyes [<] .
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MOTyes [<] .
HVIif you've weighed her that <would be useful> [>] .
MOT*MOT: <and I looked> [<] [/] I looked [//] I haven't [/] well I haven't done [//] I did it # a couple of weeks ago # .
MOTI um then looked at [/] at the chart of the norms and I noticed that she was about # normal on # head circumferance and um # weight but she was [/] she [//] I think she was shorter than normal.
GRA<what are those> [<] ?
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HVIif you've weighed her that <would be useful> [>] .
MOT<and I looked> [<] [/] I looked [//] I haven't [/] well I haven't done [//] I did it # a couple of weeks ago # .
MOT*MOT: I um then looked at [/] at the chart of the norms and I noticed that she was about # normal on # head circumferance and um # weight but she was [/] she [//] I think she was shorter than normal.
GRA<what are those> [<] ?
CHIabi [<] .
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GRAlight [<] .
MOTyes I think so .
HVI*HVI: and weight she was [//] was she around the same weightwise or # a little bit more ?
CHIlight [<] .
GRA<that's right # what is it> [<] ?
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GRAhere are some more lights # where are the other lights ?
GRA<shall we find them again> [>] ?
MOT*MOT: <xxx one stone nine and a half pounds> [<] when I last weighed her .
MOTI know we [//] she only gained half a pound while we were away .
GRAwhat are those ?
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CHIlights [<] .
GRA<yes that's right # lights> [<] .
HVI*HVI: you know for their weight gains but obviously will even out quite a lot and um [>] +...
CHIlight [<] .
GRAyes [?] [>] .
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HVIyes [<] [/] yes I do .
CHIyyy .
HVI*HVI: obviously I mean if I didn't [//] unless I've got a centile chart and I can acc [/] accurately <sort of look> [>] at their height <and weight> [>] it's difficult to say but +...
GRA<is that all right> [<] ?
CHIyyy [<] .
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MOT+, average ?
CHIbricks # bricks .
HVI*HVI: let me look and see if I've got a +...
MOTbricks .
GRAbricks .
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MOT<I've got a> [<] [/] a health record booklet for her upstairs .
MOTdo you want xxx [>] ?
HVI*HVI: <xxx there might be a centile chart and I can put it down on there> [<] [>] .
CHI0.
GRAbricks [<] .
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HVI<what a clever girl> [<] .
GRAdoes [//] do you count the stairs as you go up ?
GRA*GRA: because you usually [//] you often do with children and she might have got that idea from counting up the stairs <you know one two three> [>] .
MOT<well I think> [<] she might generalize the # idea of the bricks on top of one another to <going up the stairs> [>] .
GRA<going up the stairs> [<] <yes she might> [>] do .
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GRA<now I wasn't sure> [<] [>] .
MOT<how did you know she knew> [<] ?
GRA*GRA: well because she went on looking xxx and found it .
GRAthat's clever M wasn't it ?
GRAthat was what was so funny last # week in your room because I dropped an apple and [//] all over the place and she kept going and sticking her nose under things and saying <apple apple> ["] # we kept finding more and more and she [/] she hadn't missed one single one .
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GRAwell because she went on looking xxx and found it .
GRAthat's clever M wasn't it ?
GRA*GRA: that was what was so funny last # week in your room because I dropped an apple and [//] all over the place and she kept going and sticking her nose under things and saying <apple apple> ["] # we kept finding more and more and she [/] she hadn't missed one single one .
HVIum # <it's about ten> [>] point seven kilos [>] .
CHIxxx [<] .
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CHIxxx [<] .
GRAcome [<] on then .
HVI*HVI: and if she's [//] how My months she's just eighteen .
MOTnineteen .
HVInineteen .
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MOT<oh that's where> [<] it <comes from then> [>] uno@s dos@s.
CHIdos@s [<] # dos@s [<] .
GRA*GRA: <and then they all fell down and she said oh dear> [<] .
GRAI think Sergio might have counted up the stairs [>] with her .
CHIdos [<] .
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HVIoh dear .
HVIyou're performing beautifully <aren't you> [>] ?
MOT*MOT: <can I just> [<] borrow [>] your tape measure and < I can measure> [/] I can measure the [//] what's [//] because I've got it <marked on the door> [>] .
CHIdos [?] [<] .
CHIdos [?] [<] .
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GRAoh [<] .
GRAwho did ?
MOT*MOT: Angus and [>] [//] # um well actually they're two separate things .
GRA<oh right> [<] yes .
MOTseventy seven and a half # centimetres .
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MOTAngus and [>] [//] # um well actually they're two separate things .
GRA<oh right> [<] yes .
MOT*MOT: seventy seven and a half # centimetres .
MOTactually that measurement was at the end of November but I think I checked her again xxx I don't think she's grown .
GRAthat's <right you make M measure> [>] .
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CHIGranny [>] .
GRAxxx [<] shall we do granny's head ?
MOT*MOT: I can take her up and just check her again if you like .
HVI<what what> [/] what was she then ?
CHIyyy .
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GRAgranny's .
CHIyyy .
MOT*MOT: seventy seven and a half .
GRAgranny's got a very big head .
MOTcentimetres .
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GRAgranny .
HVIhow My sorry ?
MOT*MOT: seventy seven and a half # almost seventy eight .
HVIright .
MOTare you measuring Granny's head ?
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MOTxxx [<] .
CHIyyy .
HVI*HVI: so seventy seven xxx yes so as you can see she's # as far as her height [//] I've [/] I've put that on the eighteen month one because she was a bit younger there she's between xxx and she's just a little bit higher in terms of +...
MOTyes [/] # yes # <that's right> [<] .
MOTthat's what I'd thought # yes .
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MOT<so in terms> [<] of [//] her weight's ok for her height then # <in other words> [>] .
HVI<yes absolutely fine> [<] .
HVI*HVI: I mean obviously if [/] if her weight was down here and her height was up here then there's too much of a discrepancy .
HVIthey never completely gonna tie in at this age because obviously there are going to be # weeks or months when she's off her food for other reasons xxx ill [>] xxx .
CHIGranny [<] .
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CHIGranny [?] [<] .
CHIyyy [<] .
HVI*HVI: so her [/] # her weight and height [>] are not actually as much as we would expect them <to be> [>] .
CHIyyy [<] .
MOTno [<] .
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CHIyyy [<] .
MOTno [<] .
HVI*HVI: but they are [//] # both the weight and height are very nicely together # and I think if we had a height [//] a head circumferance chart as well [//] we'd see that they were [//] that that was also # with the fiftieth [//] # just below the fiftieth centile so xxx [>] .
MOT<do you expect> [<] their um [/] # their height and weight at this stage to <still correlate> [>] with birth ?
CHIyyy .
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MOTno [<] .
HVIbut they are [//] # both the weight and height are very nicely together # and I think if we had a height [//] a head circumferance chart as well [//] we'd see that they were [//] that that was also # with the fiftieth [//] # just below the fiftieth centile so xxx [>] .
MOT*MOT: <do you expect> [<] their um [/] # their height and weight at this stage to <still correlate> [>] with birth ?
CHIyyy .
HVII think what we're looking for more at this age is for them to correlate # more together # with the head circumferance [>] .
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MOT<she was two weeks late> [<] so that could have # made her .
GRAyes she weighed exactly the same as Margaret did only Margaret was dead on # date .
MOT*MOT: that's not true I weighed <seven and xxx > [>] .
CHIyyy [<] [>] .
GRA<well seven fifteen> [<] no seventeen [//] seven fifteen you were yes [>] .
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GRAnow would you give it to Jane on the sofa .
HVIooh yes .
GRA*GRA: and her toys .
HVIactually her head circumferance is just above the fiftieth centile xxx .
HVIbut bear in mind # growth spurts .
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CHIgranny .
GRAmm .
MOT*MOT: bear in mind her # grandmother and father's large heads .
HVIyes exactly .
HVIxxx # nothing to worry about .
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HVIyou're very petite aren't you ?
HVIhow much do you weigh ?
GRA*GRA: well I # now weigh seven and a half stone but I have [//] I was a bit more [>] than that .
CHIGranny [<] .
CHIMummy .
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HVIgood things come in small packages anyway .
MOTwill you give the tape to Jane please .
GRA*GRA: well there is a great discrepancy on both sides of the family for Margaret and Sergio isn't there with tall and short # people .
MOTnot so much in his family # well yes there is .
GRAxxx he's short for the family [>] .
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GRAxxx he's short for the family [>] .
MOT<yes [/] um> [<] # yes I suppose that's true [>] .
GRA*GRA: because on my side of the family Margaret's father's very tall and my # father for instance was very short so there's .
HVIisn't it strange # yes .
HVIwell I'm considered # very tall in my family if that'll give you any indication of how short we are # in Wales .
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HVIwell I'm considered # very tall in my family if that'll give you any indication of how short we are # in Wales .
GRAyes .
HVI*HVI: and I'm only five foot four but I tower above my sister and my mother .
MOTcould you give the tape back to Jane please ?
HVIcould you put these in the [//] # could you put them in the bag ?
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CHI0.
HVIwhat a good girl .
GRA*GRA: and does teddy go in the bag too ?
HVIshall we put teddy in the bag .
CHI0.
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HVIcan you put that in as well ?
HVIthank you .
HVI*HVI: and we'll put the tape measure in .
GRAoh yes .
CHI0.
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HVII know you like to do that .
HVIvery cooperative aren't you ?
HVI*HVI: and again .
MOTsometimes .
HVIyes .
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MOTyes .
CHI0.
HVI*HVI: it's quite interesting actually (be)cause you can [//] # talking about children and how they react to certain # situations # from the sort of psychoanalytic point of view as well really adds some xxx richness to the xxx seminars when some of the students have never had any experience [>] .
CHI<yyy # yyy> [<] .
CHIbed [<] .
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HVIshe's remembered that .
CHI0.
MOT*MOT: she sort of likes things to be # <complete and rounded off> [>] .
HVI<she likes things to be tidy> [<] don't you ?
CHI0.
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GRAyes I thought he should do .
HVIright that's everything .
GRA*GRA: and you take that .
HVIyou [/] you must keep your [/] your doggie musn't you .
HVImusn't take him home .
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CHIyyy [>] .
HVIblimey [<] I mean +...
MOT*MOT: we had one point where we were going through one of the security checks in one of the airports on the way and she was carrying her dog # and the [//] um sec [//] the security guard made as if to take the dog away to check it and I said [/] I said <oh look I don't think she's going to like it if you take it away> ["] and he said <oh oh all right then> ["] so he checked it very nicely without [>] taking it away .
CHIninã [<] [?] .
HVIxxx [>] .
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CHIyyy .
GRAoh look yes you <give it back to Jane> [>] .
MOT*MOT: <and also Panama and> [<] <Central America> [>] .
GRA<that's right> [<] <it belongs in her bag> [>] .
HVI<shall we put it> [<] in there ?
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MOTwell it's a two year project <so um> [>] +...
HVI<oh marvellous> [<] .
MOT*MOT: +, it's going on until she's three and a bit .
HVIand she is the [/] the sole subject xxx [>] .
MOT<she is for the> [<] [/] for the d [= starts saying something else] yes for [/] for the moment but it's amazing actually # <how much I'm not going to be able to do> [>] because it's [/] it's very detailed type [//] kind of stuff and I'm only going to be able to focus on certain aspects of it so # there's a lot more I could do .
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HVI<oh marvellous> [<] .
MOT+, it's going on until she's three and a bit .
HVI*HVI: and she is the [/] the sole subject xxx [>] .
MOT<she is for the> [<] [/] for the d [= starts saying something else] yes for [/] for the moment but it's amazing actually # <how much I'm not going to be able to do> [>] because it's [/] it's very detailed type [//] kind of stuff and I'm only going to be able to focus on certain aspects of it so # there's a lot more I could do .
CHI<yyy # yyy # yyy> [<] .
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MOT+, it's going on until she's three and a bit .
HVIand she is the [/] the sole subject xxx [>] .
MOT*MOT: <she is for the> [<] [/] for the d [= starts saying something else] yes for [/] for the moment but it's amazing actually # <how much I'm not going to be able to do> [>] because it's [/] it's very detailed type [//] kind of stuff and I'm only going to be able to focus on certain aspects of it so # there's a lot more I could do .
CHI<yyy # yyy # yyy> [<] .
HVIit's very sort of Piagetian isn't it sort of very in depth study of one child <and sort of following it through> [>] .
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MOT<she is for the> [<] [/] for the d [= starts saying something else] yes for [/] for the moment but it's amazing actually # <how much I'm not going to be able to do> [>] because it's [/] it's very detailed type [//] kind of stuff and I'm only going to be able to focus on certain aspects of it so # there's a lot more I could do .
CHI<yyy # yyy # yyy> [<] .
HVI*HVI: it's very sort of Piagetian isn't it sort of very in depth study of one child <and sort of following it through> [>] .
MOT<yes well it's [//] if [/] if you> [<] look at the language it's so detailed it's got so much data you don't know what to do with it really .
CHI0.