@Font: Win95:Courier:-13:1 @Begin @Participants: MOT Mother, CHI Child @ID: en|flusberg|MOT|||autistic||Mother|| @ID: en|flusberg|CHI|||||Child|| @Age of MOT: @Sex of MOT: @Group of MOT: autistic @SES of MOT: @Age of CHI: @Sex of CHI: @Group of CHI: @SES of CHI: @Comment: this visit 9 taping took place on january 5, 1987 @Comment: the first speaker is the mom and the second is the child @Comment: m holds two cards; a sad card and a happy card, which c will get depending on his behavior they sit in living room *MOT: right, [/?] what do you have to do to earn this card? *CHI: be good or, happens if I'm loud on my bed? %cod: $uc, $cc *MOT: nothing. *CHI: so close the door. *MOT: yeah. *CHI: happens if I'm loud while the door is closed? %cod: $cc *MOT: we talked about that xxx. *MOT: you wanna write about it? *MOT: brett. *CHI: what? *MOT: you just like to write? *CHI: no. *MOT: okay. *MOT: [/?] I want you to tell me, did vicky take you to the playground today? *CHI: yeah. *CHI: and then I run very fast and then I [/?] hit the fence and stopped. %cod: $0ip, $0ip *MOT: you did? *MOT: [/?] did you meet any new kids? *CHI: yeah, because +/. *CHI: ann and katie. *MOT: you did? *CHI: and janet. *CHI: mommy, can I open up my [/?] present? *MOT: in a minute, sure. *MOT: brett, keep your feet still. *CHI: xxx. *MOT: brett, [/?] did you meet any boys? *MOT: what were their names? *CHI: I don't wanna talk to you. *MOT: I'll put them right here, so you can see them, okay? %com: m refers to the cards *MOT: so you don't forget. *MOT: did you meet any boys brett? *CHI: yeah. *MOT: [/?] brett, do you remember their names? *CHI: yeah. *MOT: what +/. *CHI: no. *MOT: brett, is it time to play with the strings on your coat? %cod: $uc *CHI: no. *MOT: what's it time to do? %cod: $cc %com: c screams *CHI: I wanna talk +/. *CHI: I wanna talk to you. *MOT: what's it time to do? %cod: $cc *CHI: talk. *MOT: how? *CHI: quiet. %cod: $0ly *MOT: yeah. *MOT: brett, [/?] what did you play with in the playground? *CHI: kids. *MOT: were there any toys or anything? *CHI: yes. %com: c screams and jumps on sofa *MOT: brett, sit up and talk. *CHI: I don't wanna talk to you. %com: c screams more *CHI: I don't wanna talk. *CHI: I don't wanna talk. *MOT: that's what you're doing right now. %cod: $cc, $xx %com: m shows CHI a card *CHI: I wanna get it. *MOT: this is what you're earning right now. %cod: $xx *CHI: I wanna earn it. *MOT: you wanna earn this one? *CHI: yeah. *MOT: then, what do you +/. *MOT: brett. *CHI: what? *MOT: what do you have to do then? *CHI: be quiet. *MOT: are you behaving well? %cod: $ux *CHI: no. *MOT: how are you behaving? %cod: $ux *CHI: loud. %cod: $0ly *MOT: and +/. *CHI: bad. *MOT: badly. *CHI: badly? *MOT: you are gonna have +/. %cod: $ux *MOT: [/?] brett. *CHI: what? *MOT: you have one more chance. *MOT: if you yell again, you are gonna earn the bad card, the sad card. %cod: $ux *CHI: I won't get +/. *CHI: you'll get the sauce. *MOT: nothing. *CHI: you'll get the sauce. *MOT: no, but you get nothing. *CHI: happens if I'm loud in my bed? %cod: $cc *MOT: shanon will have dessert and shanon will sneggle in her popcorn, and I'll sneggle in her popcorn because I earned my priviledges and you will not. *MOT: and you will feel like this guy right here. *CHI: and then, [/?] what happenss if I'm loud at my bed? %cod: $cc *MOT: okay brett, what would you like to do? *CHI: have the sad-ness. *MOT: you want the sad card? *CHI: happy-ness. *CHI: happy-ness. *MOT: okay, how? *CHI: quiet. *MOT: right brett. *MOT: would you like to open this up and see what's in it? %cod: $cc *CHI: yeah. %com: c starts to unwrap present *MOT: good boy. *MOT: [/?], let's sit to the end here, here. %cod: $cc *CHI: I wanna xxx make designs. *MOT: you can do whatever you want. *MOT: < you want just> [/?] just draw whatever you want, brett. *CHI: yeah, designs. *MOT: you want front designs? *MOT: about taking off +/. *CHI: I wanna take my coat off. *MOT: brett, take off your jacket until it's time +/. %cod: $cc %com: sibling comes in *CHI: coat off. *CHI: [/?] [/?] I want +/. %com: c screams *MOT: brett. *MOT: brett. *MOT: put the markers down please, for a minute. *MOT: put them down brett, quietly. *MOT: brett. %com: c whines *MOT: quietly put the markers down. *MOT: okay brett. *CHI: what? *MOT: do it quietly. %com: m hands CHI the markers *CHI: [/?], I'll practice. *MOT: do it one more time quietly brett. *MOT: that was nice quiet putting down the markers. %cod: $uc *MOT: brett. *CHI: what? *MOT: you are inside right now. %cod: $ux *MOT: you can put your coat on when it's time to go outside. %cod: $cc %com: c whines *CHI: I want it. *CHI: I want it. *MOT: brett, stand up. *MOT: brett. %com: c screams and lays on the floor *CHI: I want a present. *MOT: brett, stand up. *MOT: brett, stand up and quietly take off your coat. *MOT: quietly take your coat off brett. *MOT: brett, stand up quietly. *CHI: < aah> [/?]. *MOT: brett, stand up quietly. *MOT: that's better brett. %cod: $cc %com: tape was stopped and then restarted *CHI: [/?] +/. *MOT: I had to resort to that, but I really have [/?] +/. *CHI: what happens if I didn't take my coat off? *MOT: okay brett. *CHI: what? *MOT: you see a nice mix, some nice designs in the paper and tell me about it. *MOT: okay, what are we talking about right now, though, brett? %cod: $ux *CHI: designs. %com: m talks to sibling sib says " to CHI *MOT: someone said hello to you, brett. *CHI: hi, shanon. *MOT: actually, that might be kind of nice to see. %com: m talks to sib *MOT: brett. *MOT: brett. *CHI: what? *MOT: what do you do with your eyes when someone-'isaux talking to you? %cod: $xx *CHI: look. *MOT: brett. *CHI: what? *MOT: wanna ask shanon if she'd like to draw with you? *CHI: no. *MOT: I think shanon should have a piece of +/. *CHI: I love it too. *MOT: brett. *CHI: what? *MOT: share a piece of paper with shanon, so she can draw with you. *CHI: of +/. *MOT: paper. *MOT: brett. *CHI: what? *MOT: can shanon have a piece of your paper? *CHI: yeah. *MOT: yeah, tell her +/. *CHI: xxx. *MOT: why don't you tell her? *CHI: I love you. %com: sib says "i love you too" and joins MOM and CHI *MOT: brett. *CHI: what? *MOT: why don't you tell her about the paper though? *MOT: brett. *MOT: talk to shanon about the paper. *CHI: I'm making designs. %cod: $xx %com: c scribbles on paper *MOT: unusual pattern for brett. *MOT: brett. *CHI: what? *MOT: look. *CHI: a snowflake, like a [/?] snowflake. *MOT: yes, that's like a nice snowflake. %cod: $cc *MOT: can shanon draw with you? *CHI: yeah. *CHI: mommy. *MOT: what? *CHI: what happens if I'm loud and didn't take my coat off or what? *MOT: I'm not gonna talk about this. *MOT: you know what happens. *CHI: it get bad. %cod: $03s *CHI: [/?] that's pepper. %cod: $cc *CHI: can I see it? *MOT: no, you don't need to see it because we already talked about it, didn't we? *CHI: no we didn't. *MOT: brett. *CHI: what? *MOT: did we talk about it? *CHI: yeah. %cod: $cc *CHI: I wonder when I'll have chocolate milk. *MOT: I don't know. *MOT: when do you think you'll have it? *CHI: I don't know. %cod: $cc, *CHI: after +/. *MOT: after what, brett? *CHI: after I'm doing my things. %cod: $xx *MOT: what kinds of things you're doing? %cod: $xx *CHI: making designs. *MOT: all right, let's turn the page. *MOT: shanon can fit +/. *CHI: can make one design. *MOT: can you make a different kind of a design? %com: sib and MOM talk *CHI: take the paper off so you can see better. *MOT: brett, we are not gonna talk about that, though. %cod: $xx *CHI: why? *MOT: (be)cause we don't need to. *MOT: it's not important right now, because you're being a nice quiet guy. %cod: $cc, $xx *CHI: xxx. *MOT: what are you gonna make in this? *CHI: happens if I'm a bad boy? %cod: $cc *MOT: brett. *CHI: what? *MOT: you wanna write about it? *CHI: no. *MOT: did we already talk about it? *CHI: yeah. *CHI: and write about it. *MOT: make a design about it. *MOT: can you make a different kind of a design? *MOT: what's that a picture of? %cod: $cc *CHI: a pretty design. *CHI: how's that? %cod: $cc *CHI: that's a design. %cod: $cc *MOT: what kind of a design? *CHI: pretty design. *MOT: you know what would look nice? *CHI: what? *MOT: what do you think would look nice on that, brett. *CHI: signs don't have xxx. *MOT: brett. *CHI: [/?] what? *MOT: what do you think would look nice on that? *CHI: I don't know. *CHI: a snowflake. *MOT: all right. *MOT: boy, that's a good looking snow, brett. %cod: $cc *MOT: with xxx is right under the wire. *CHI: that's a snowflake. %cod: $cc *MOT: is it? %cod: $uc *CHI: can I color in your snowflake? *CHI: [/?]. *CHI: balloon. *CHI: [/?] white and black. *MOT: [/?] you don't have white. *MOT: but you do have black, where is it? %cod: $uc *MOT: [/?] where is the black one? %cod: $cc *MOT: brett. *CHI: in there. *MOT: in where? *CHI: [/?], no. %com: m takes markers *MOT: is this mine? %cod: $uc *CHI: no. *CHI: mine. *MOT: do you want it? *CHI: yeah. *MOT: well +/. *MOT: about taking your fingers out of your mouth, please. %com: c whines *MOT: what's the correct way? %cod: $cc *CHI: please, can I have it? *MOT: sure brett, I like the way you ask. *MOT: boy, you are making it very nice. *CHI: [/?]. *MOT: what's the matter brett. %cod: $cc *CHI: [/?] I didn't have it. *MOT: you didn't have what? *CHI: [/?]. *MOT: brett. *CHI: what? *MOT: what's wrong? %cod: $cc *CHI: it's over there. %cod: $cc *MOT: did you want the blue marker? *CHI: yeah. *MOT: [/?], boy, brett, can you draw a picture of me? *MOT: draw a picture of mommy? *MOT: is that a picture of me? %cod: $uc *CHI: yeah. *MOT: how am I gonna smell? %cod: $ux *MOT: I don't have a nose. *CHI: xxx. *MOT: where is my nose? %cod: $cc *MOT: [/?], what a nice looking nose. *MOT: [/?], you're adding +/. %cod: $xx *MOT: you're doing today a snowflake. %cod: $xx *CHI: making it black. *MOT: why? *CHI: so it can look pretty. *MOT: so it can loook pretty. *MOT: brett. *MOT: that's really nice. %cod: $cc *MOT: that's really, really nice. %cod: $cc *CHI: when it snows, this ges around, and it falls on the ground, and stops. *MOT: that's right, now we'll have this to +/. %cod: $cc *MOT: would you take your fingers out of your mouth please? *CHI: when it rains, it melts. *MOT: what can you do with it when it desn't melt? *CHI: because rain desn't xxx. *MOT: brett, if it desn't rain on the snow, and you roll it, what can you make with the snow? *CHI: a snowman. *MOT: what is small, that you can make with the snow if you roll it? %cod: $cc *CHI: ball. %cod: $0a *MOT: yeah, what's it called? %cod: $cc *CHI: snowball. *MOT: yeah, snowball. *CHI: what size is a ball +/. %cod: $uc *CHI: I'll make a big snowman. *MOT: I don't know. *MOT: it must be what? %cod: $uc *CHI: big. *CHI: can I have chocolate milk? *MOT: in a little bit, sure you can. *CHI: now +/. *MOT: in a few minutes. *CHI: when the hand's on. %cod: $cc *MOT: brett. *CHI: [/?]? *MOT: one more time you can, okay? *MOT: brett. *CHI: what? *MOT: did you ride on swings today? *CHI: yeah. *MOT: brett. *CHI: what? *MOT: did you ride on swings today? *MOT: did you ride on the swings with the kids today? *CHI: no. *MOT: no? *CHI: xxx. *MOT: why not? *CHI: because I +/. *CHI: because I run too much. %cod: $0ip *MOT: because you run too much? *MOT: okay, brett. *MOT: can you draw +/. *MOT: let's see you draw a picture of our house. *CHI: broken. *MOT: is that our house? %cod: $uc *CHI: xxx. *CHI: these are called things. %cod: $uc *MOT: those are called things? %cod: $uc *CHI: your things. *MOT: what happened to my things? *CHI: they're at the xxx. %cod: $cc %com: sib talks too *MOT: they're a blub? %cod: $cc *CHI: that's the playroom. %cod: $cc *MOT: looks like it. *MOT: what happened to my things inside their house? *CHI: xxx xxx nice. *MOT: that's nice? %cod: $cc *CHI: happened to shanon's things? *MOT: I don't know, what do you think happened to them? *CHI: I wrecked them. %com: sib: yeah, you wrecked my things brett I could kill you for it too *CHI: don't kill me. *CHI: what is this called? %cod: $cc *CHI: what is it? %cod: $cc %com: sib: it's andrea and jj *CHI: makes a substraction. %cod: $cc *MOT: what is this brett? %cod: $cc %com: c moves head negatively *MOT: take the pencil out of your mouth. %com: sib talks *MOT: what des that say? *CHI: andrea plus jj. *MOT: what des that mean? *CHI: andrea. *MOT: what about it? *MOT: brett. *CHI: what? *MOT: I'll take it away from you if you can't hold it the right way. %com: m refers to marker *MOT: you'll loose it. *CHI: I'm gonna get the sauce, that sauce. *MOT: you'll loose it, brett. *MOT: [/?] what do you want shanon to do to this? *CHI: make it xxx. %com: m and sib talk *MOT: now what's shanon doing? %cod: $cc *CHI: xxx. *MOT: [/?] what design did she make on this? *CHI: it's a plus. %cod: $cc *CHI: andrea plus jj. *MOT: yeah? %com: sib laughs *MOT: brett. *MOT: brett, can we talk about christmas? *MOT: would you tell me about your christms presents? *CHI: [/?] santaclaus says +/. *CHI: santaclaus is at the north pole. %cod: $uc *CHI: the north pole is way up on the top of the world. %cod: $cc *CHI: and then he comes down through that thing [/?] down xxx, down the chimney. *CHI: he comes in and puts the presents on, over the trees. *CHI: he comes back up to the north pole. %cod: $0e *MOT: ges back up. *CHI: he ges back up to the north pole. *MOT: what presents did he bring you this year? *MOT: what presents did he bring to you? *CHI: he bring me. %cod: $0ip *MOT: brought. *CHI: brought me my truck. *CHI: santaclaus took the angels. *MOT: what did he do? *CHI: he took the angels back to the north pole. *MOT: what angels? *CHI: the angels of the cape, he took them to the north pole. *MOT: okay. *MOT: what else did santaclaus bring you? *CHI: toys and a golf club. *MOT: [/?] [/?] you'd have to remember that +/. *MOT: brett, can you tell me what you did in christmas time? *MOT: tell me what the family did on christmas. *CHI: xxx. *MOT: our family, who's our family? %cod: $cc *CHI: mommy, shanon and me. *MOT: and? *CHI: marcia. *MOT: [/?] no. *MOT: nana. *MOT: uncle +/. *CHI: glenn. *MOT: and uncle who? *CHI: joey. *MOT: tell me what we all did on christmas day. *CHI: [/?] laid out my presents. *CHI: what did I see that uncle jorge xxx xxx? *CHI: what did I see? *MOT: I don't know, what did you see? *CHI: I saw a golf club. *MOT: okay, but you know what we're talking about, brett? %cod: $xx *MOT: I want you to tell me about what all of the family did. *MOT: what we all did during christmas day. *MOT: after we opened our present-s, what did we all do in christmas day? *CHI: [/?] pulled off the toys. %com: sib talks *MOT: okay, did we go anyplace? *CHI: yeah, to auntie betty's house. *MOT: why? *CHI: because it's christmas. %cod: $cc *MOT: because it was christmas, yeah, but why did we go? %cod: $uc *CHI: because is a way we can see the golf. %cod: $uc, $0e *MOT: [/?] well, we didn't go there so you could see the golf clubs. *MOT: why did we all go? *CHI: because it's christmas. %cod: $cc *MOT: what did we have to do there? *CHI: xxx open the presents. *MOT: and +/. *CHI: get a plastic golf club. %com: m and sib laugh *CHI: and I saw the golf club. *CHI: I got a plastic golf club xxx. *CHI: xxx because there is food in there. %cod: $cc *MOT: yes, why did we go to betty and joey's house? *CHI: because I'm gonna look +/. %cod: $xx *CHI: because +/. %com: c moves away *MOT: come over here, I can't see you. *MOT: [/?] but well, I can't see you. *MOT: brett, I want you to come over here. *MOT: I want you to come back over here and tell me all about going to auntie betty and uncle joey's house. *CHI: because, I don't know. *MOT: did you eat anything while you were there? *CHI: yeah. *MOT: what did you +/. *CHI: and then I went +/. *MOT: what did you have there? *CHI: xxx and laid out the food in there. *MOT: she laid it out? *CHI: and I saw the golf clubs. *MOT: she laid out the food? *CHI: yeah, if I saw the golf clubs. *MOT: how des somebody lay out food? *CHI: dinner. *MOT: brett, tell me about what aunt betty did to the food. *CHI: laid it on the floor. *CHI: and then she put the food back. *MOT: where? *MOT: where? *CHI: I don't know. *CHI: in the sink. *CHI: she ate them. *MOT: she ate them. *CHI: she ate the food off the table. *MOT: she ate it off the table? *CHI: then I went in and saw the golf clubs. *CHI: again. *MOT: you did? *CHI: so they hit the ball. *MOT: did uncle joey let you play with those golf clubs? *CHI: [/?] yes, he did. *CHI: plastic golf clubs. *MOT: what did uncle joe put in the +/. *MOT: brett. *CHI: [/?]? *MOT: keep your hands still and look at me please. *MOT: [/?] and could you stay a little more still too? *MOT: xxx sit still children, both of you, I've asked you. *MOT: I asked you before not to pull on the rope, okay? *MOT: that was a warning and I'm not kiding about it this time. %cod: $ux, $xx *MOT: all right? *MOT: thankyou. *MOT: brett. *CHI: what? *MOT: what did uncle joey put on the floor for you? *CHI: his golf course. *MOT: tell me about that. *CHI: and then [/?] they put a golf there to play golf. *CHI: and he used it with a metal golf club. *MOT: what did you do? *CHI: I used it with a plastic golf club. %cod: $0s *MOT: and what did you try to do? *CHI: hit the ball, and then when I do it in the pot at betty's house, do it with a pot. *MOT: I +/. *CHI: do it with a pot at betty's house. *MOT: do you like golf? *CHI: yeah. *MOT: do you like +/. *CHI: I do it with a pot at betty's house. *MOT: brett, what other sport do you like? *CHI: [/?], all sports. *MOT: [/?], excuse me. *MOT: what other sports do you like a real lot, to watch them play? *MOT: you like golf and what else? *CHI: and football, baseball, soccer. *CHI: is a stick in soccer? %cod: $uc *CHI: I don't roll a soccer ball. *MOT: you know what you do with a soccer ball? *MOT: kick it, and you hit it with your head. *MOT: you hit it with all parts of your body. %com: sib: you do? *MOT: you hit it with your head, you hit with your shoulder-s, you hit it with your knees. %com: sib: you do? *MOT: yeah. *CHI: I hit a stick. *CHI: [/?] don't scratch the furniture. *MOT: brett. *CHI: what? *MOT: do you use a stick to play soccer? *CHI: yes. *CHI: no. *MOT: what do you hit the soccer ball with? *CHI: with the parts of my body. *MOT: hit with your +/. *CHI: shoulder. *CHI: and, I don't know. *MOT: what do you like to play that hass a stick? *MOT: what else? *CHI: baseball. *MOT: what else? *CHI: golf. *MOT: what's the sport that you like that begins with the [/?]? %cod: $cc *CHI: hockey, and xxx, xxx xxx like that begins with an a. *CHI: [/?] +/. *CHI: [/?]. *MOT: what? *CHI: on a poun xxx. *CHI: on a poun xxx. *MOT: arnold's xxx. *CHI: poun the xxx. %com: m laughs, sib asks about what *MOT: arnold fall +/. %com: sib: what? *MOT: on a plain, it just couldn't +/. *MOT: brett. *MOT: brett. *MOT: I'm gonna write it out for you. %cod: $xx *MOT: xxx. %com: sib: what is it? *MOT: arnoldpalmer, his famous call +/. *MOT: do you want me to write +/. *CHI: xxx xxx a golf club. *MOT: do you want me to write +/. %com: m talks to sib *MOT: do you want me to write arnoldpalmer? *CHI: yeah. *MOT: I show you how it's spelled. %cod: $cc *MOT: what des arnoldpalmer do? *CHI: play golf. *MOT: yeah, he plays golf. *MOT: he was on tv last night, brett. %cod: $uc *MOT: arnold was on television. %cod: $uc *MOT: brett, des that belong in your mouth? %com: m refers to a plastic CHI has in his mouth *CHI: no xxx. *MOT: there brett. *MOT: that's how you spell +/. %cod: $cc *CHI: write a golf club. *MOT: you know how to do that, let me see you do it. *MOT: let's see you write golf club. *CHI: I wanna write a stick. *MOT: are you drawing [/?] a picture of your golf club? %cod: $ux *CHI: yeah. *MOT: [/?] very good, brett. *CHI: here is the ball. *MOT: [/?] very good. *CHI: and it ges right up, and then, here is the home. %cod: $cc *MOT: [/?] did you xxx xxx? *CHI: xxx. *MOT: [/?] you hit like that and it landed in the home? *CHI: yeah. *MOT: [/?] can you draw me a hokey game in the next page? *MOT: what color is the hokey sticks in the garage? %cod: $cc *MOT: they're this color. %cod: $cc %com: m shows CHI a marker *MOT: this is the color of the hokey sticks. %cod: $cc *MOT: they're red. %cod: $cc %com: m and sib walk away *CHI: [/?], are like that. %cod: $uc *CHI: that hit the pot. *CHI: and then it slides up and there is a net. %cod: $cc *CHI: net in the bunkers. %com: m returns *MOT: what's that? %cod: $cc *CHI: goal, when it's tight to the net. %cod: $cc *CHI: [/?] that's not the hokey stick that is in the garage. %cod: $cc *MOT: yes, it is. %cod: $uc *CHI: no. *CHI: not like this. *MOT: yes. *MOT: brett. *CHI: [/?] that's my favorite hokey stick at the gym, at school. %cod: $cc *MOT: look at me. *CHI: like those hokey sticks in the garage. *MOT: [/?] brett. *CHI: what? *MOT: I want you to put [/?] the pen down for a minute. *MOT: brett. *MOT: brett. *CHI: what? *MOT: is the hokey stick in the garage, the same as one at school? %cod: $uc *CHI: no. *CHI: yes. *MOT: [/?] what is it? %cod: $uc *CHI: it's a stick. %cod: $cc *MOT: brett. *CHI: what? *MOT: [/?] is the hokey stick +/. %cod: $uc *MOT: is the hokey stick in the garage the same or different than the one in scool? %cod: $uc *CHI: different. *MOT: why? *CHI: because they're yellow and red. %cod: $cc *MOT: is it bigger or is it smaller? %cod: $uc, $uc *CHI: big, is this +/. %com: c shows with hands how big it is *MOT: brett. *CHI: what? %com: m walks away *CHI: brett comes down and go to school. %cod: $03s *CHI: that's okay, that's school. %cod: $cc @End